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i... i don't know what to say about this.

on the one hand, ANYTHING i say about this can be used as an attack against me, solely due to the fact that, as someone perceived as a white woman, anything i say MUST be coming from a position of privilege, etc. on the other hand - i have seen women of every stripe and creed act in unconscionable manner. yep, there are things that white women are *more* guilty of than other types of women - girls gone wild, i suppose. there are other negative stereotypes attached to ALL women, either by group or as a whole. same as with men. i can't help but think that the problem this guy actually has is that white women, as a group, have more power and agency than other women because we only labor under a SINGLE handicap, that of being a woman. not a "colored woman" (which i think he means to be ANY non-white woman, which is why i used it) it's not that *white women* are over-represented in the media, it's that white *people* are. and women are portrayed in only a few, stereotypical cliches. they can be
a) the shrewish wife/mother
b) the abused victim/princess
c) the smart girl who is still option B but isn't stupid
or d) a slut.

these are often mixed and matched, and more and more you are seeing non-white-women as something BESIDES D. but it is still more common for white women to have a greater depth of shallow stereotype (if that makes sense... maybe a larger width of shallow stereotype) but where there are 20 white women to every 1 non-white woman, it skews what is percieved. add to that the fact that, in the US and Europe and Australia, where most media is created, the majority of women are white, and it is quite easy to see how someone can develpe the impression that white women are catered to. take, for instance, the idea that men prefer blondes. (please! take it away). add to that the fact, at least in the societal mind (not individual minds!) women are supposed to prefer *dumb* women, and the fact that blondes are supposed to be dumb, and what do you get?

i dunno. i mean, i don't self-identify as white. i have dated everything - from mexicans to mormons (a mistake i won't repeat, mormon ideals about sex are, well... lets just say *magic underwear*, kay?). i've never dated a guy *because* of his race, and have (often) dumped guys for their racism. except for the one guy who found out after about a month that i was Cherokee and not white, *he* dumped *me* but i never regretted that one. guys are pretty much guys. for some reason, women only get to be stereotypes.

and i'm having trouble NOT believing that this guy resents white women only because they are more likely to leave him or report him for abuse (which, btw, is NOT true - statistically, *black* women are much more likely to not put up with it). its just too over-the-top, too pat, too STEREOTYPICAL and only looking at ONE CLASS of white women, too wrapped up in white women having sex with lots of guys, too obsessed with interracial relationships (but only when one person is white). and mostly, too STUPID.

Date: 2008-12-26 12:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anivair.livejournal.com
Here's the issue. It's not white women. never was. It's not about being white. it's about being an overprivelidged prissy brat. And black women rarely have the luxury of going that route. But I'm getting really sick of people in this country who think that we have racial problems when what we have are class problems. the fact that most of the money is in the hands of the white is a problem for black people, certainly, but rich white people are stopping poor people of all races from getting money. The rich keeping the poor down. that's always been the story.

blah!

Date: 2008-12-27 08:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] flickerflash.livejournal.com
Liz, your stuff makes a lot of sense, just saying.. a lot of the issues you bring up are REAL issues for a lot of women...

Date: 2008-12-30 07:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blogofchampions.livejournal.com
I think what he really means to say is that white privilege sucks. Or rather that is what he would mean to say if he weren't so hateful. It's clear that he doesn't really understand the concept of privilege because he thinks white women are more privileged than white men: "There are some people that believe the pedestal that white women are on extends to white men. For those who still believe this, or do not believe that white men have a legitimate complaint about white male bashing in the media need to watch this clip."

This is completely ungrounded armchair psychology, but doesn't it sound like he's just been dumped by a bunch of white women in the past? It seems like he's twisted the concept of privilege so that it excludes him and he can feel sorry for himself.

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